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1 AM, February 17

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2 AM, February 17

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02:22 schestowitz-pi; trouble in youtubeland

02:22 schestowitz-pi; chief resigns

02:22 schestowitz-pi; good!!

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3 AM, February 17

03:24 schestowitz-TR2; Time to update your cable? https://dissociatedpress.net/2023/02/16/time-to-update-your-cable/

03:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dissociatedpress.net | Time to update your cable?: Dissociated Press

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4 AM, February 17

04:53 schestowitz-pi; > https://learn.opsec.institute/

04:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-learn.opsec.institute | Grugq's OPSEC Institute

04:53 schestowitz-pi; >

04:53 schestowitz-pi; > https://medium.com/@thegrugq

04:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thaddeus t. grugq Medium

04:53 schestowitz-pi; I don't like him and don't trust him for things he did and said in the past (cannot recall all of them).

04:54 schestowitz-pi; Title Topic Deadline Action

04:54 schestowitz-pi; Draft Act

04:54 schestowitz-pi; Key performance indicators for the Digital Decade policy programme 2030

04:54 schestowitz-pi; <https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/13743-Key-performance-indicators-for-the-Digital-Decade-policy-programme-2030_en> Digital economy and society

04:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ec.europa.eu | Have your say

04:54 schestowitz-pi; 13/03/2023 Published for feedback

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6 AM, February 17

06:14 techrightssec; gm

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7 AM, February 17

07:13 schestowitz-pi; you said something about "testing...."

07:13 schestowitz-pi; but i did not manage to read it before the session got reset

07:13 schestowitz-pi; I've made little progress on the pension

07:13 schestowitz-pi; a lack of progress is something, but I'd rather get answers

07:13 schestowitz-pi; other people look into it as well

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07:44 techrightssec; testing a short script for impor

07:44 techrightssec; testing a short script for improved connectivity

07:44 techrightssec; seems to work

07:52 schestowitz-TR2; Multifocal Necrotizing Encephalitis and Myocarditis (Brain and Heart Damage) After BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccination Against COVID-19 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/02/17/mrna-vaccination-brain-damage/

07:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Multifocal Necrotizing Encephalitis and Myocarditis (Brain and Heart Damage) After BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccination Against COVID-19

07:54 schestowitz-pi;

07:54 schestowitz-pi; the only good thing about not quitting in 2019 is that we managed to work from home and avoid this chaos

07:54 schestowitz-pi;

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8 AM, February 17

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08:30 schestowitz-pi; there seems to be a pattern forming across sector

08:30 schestowitz-pi; private and public

08:30 schestowitz-pi; big snd small

08:30 schestowitz-pi; i did a video about this

08:30 schestowitz-pi; going to leave home in a bit

08:30 schestowitz-pi; 5 tasks to do outside ahead of rianne's ceremony

08:30 schestowitz-pi; will be away about 2-3 hours

08:30 schestowitz-pi; i generally think we left at the right time

08:30 schestowitz-pi; seeing what was happening months later

08:30 schestowitz-pi; if i had left in 20211 to get another position

08:30 schestowitz-pi; those other jobs would not be safe either

08:30 schestowitz-pi; or uncertainty exploited to get people to work a lot harder

08:30 schestowitz-pi; for less pay (inflation)

08:31 techrightssec; Yes, there is a more exploitation than ever.

08:32 schestowitz-pi; this is somewhat proportional to job security

08:32 schestowitz-pi; "my worker will leave if I do this" -> i respect the worker

08:32 schestowitz-pi; "my worker is sesperate to keep this job" -> got him/her by the b0ls

08:34 techrights[sec]; The market conditions at the moment should strongly favor the workers

08:34 techrights[sec]; but their is extreme collusion against them by both emplyers and media

08:35 schestowitz-pi; to expand: (naturally)

08:35 schestowitz-pi; work hard and save when the econoy is ok

08:35 schestowitz-pi; take sabbatical when SHTF

08:45 techrights[sec]; s/their/there/

08:47 schestowitz-pi; i managed to improve frame rate and sound quality for videos

08:47 schestowitz-pi; with no extra gadgets

08:47 schestowitz-pi; back in 2-3 hours

08:47 schestowitz-pi; youtube will sink

08:47 schestowitz-pi; its new chief is an advertising person

08:47 schestowitz-pi; shows what they have plans for that "platform"

08:47 techrights[sec]; Good

08:47 techrights[sec]; acck

08:47 techrights[sec]; Yep. The further they get from tech, which is where there core is, the more

08:47 techrights[sec]; they will lose. MBAs burn money, anwyay. So YT is toast now.

08:47 techrights[sec]; It was probably toast before, but this move ensures it.

08:47 techrights[sec]; =

08:48 schestowitz-pi; youtube revenue is DOWN

08:48 schestowitz-pi; AFTER all that ad blitz

08:48 schestowitz-pi; they put off "creators" and "users" alike

08:48 schestowitz-pi; it's like this with all social control media, inc. twitter

08:48 schestowitz-pi; get in people's way and they will walk away

08:49 techrights[sec]; YT has been unwachable for months because of adds, I basically avoid it now

08:50 techrights[sec]; even when something otherwise interesting might have been posted to it.

08:50 techrights[sec]; Their abuse of "creators" has become legendary now, No one in their right

08:50 techrights[sec]; mind will try entering that market and their is only some much more time left

08:50 techrights[sec]; in which YT can milk the established "creators" before they leave too, and not

08:50 techrights[sec]; just through normal attrition.

08:50 schestowitz-pi; YT has been unwachable for months because of adds, I basically avoid it now

08:50 schestowitz-pi; even when something otherwise interesting might have been posted to it.

08:50 schestowitz-pi; Their abuse of "creators" has become legendary now, No one in their right

08:50 schestowitz-pi; mind will try entering that market and their is only some much more time left

08:50 schestowitz-pi; in which YT can milk the established "creators" before they leave too, and not

08:50 schestowitz-pi; just through normal attrition.

08:50 schestowitz-pi; bbl

08:50 techrights[sec]; People are walking away from YT both the viewers and the "creators"

08:54 schestowitz-pi; chief "resigns" (walks away)

08:54 schestowitz-pi; one of the company's very early employees

08:54 schestowitz-pi; youtube DID try, MANY times, to set up PAID "programs"

08:54 schestowitz-pi; like "red"

08:54 schestowitz-pi; they never worked

08:54 schestowitz-pi; they could not "monetise" it

08:54 schestowitz-pi; same for twitter

08:54 schestowitz-pi; they shrank a lot in 2018 after they had tiaghtened screwed

08:54 schestowitz-pi; the monetary boost lasted only wuarters, not a year

08:54 schestowitz-pi; *tightene screws

08:54 schestowitz-pi; and now musk has another go at killing off APIs

08:54 schestowitz-pi; now he's just milking it to boost his own 'ads' (tweets)

08:54 schestowitz-pi; bad RoI for 44 billion bucks, partly paid by HeadChoppers Inc.

08:54 schestowitz-pi; "impulsive buying"

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11 AM, February 17

11:36 schestowitz-pi; back and thinking aloud in ytalk:

11:36 schestowitz-pi; so maybe the future is not social control multimedia

11:36 schestowitz-pi; tiktok apparently has some revenue, but no idea is the goal is to make money or to 'retart' peopl;e

11:36 schestowitz-pi; twitter will be reduced to niche by year's end, FB executives are leaving

11:36 schestowitz-pi; the web became very JS-intensive

11:37 schestowitz-pi; I saw that in firefox for a few days, it was truly, awful, you can barely open any page without popup

11:37 schestowitz-pi; overlaps and animations all over the place

11:37 schestowitz-pi; mobile device sales slowing, but likely for purely economic reasons

11:37 schestowitz-pi; gemini has been slowing lately, sad to say...

11:37 techrights[sec]; Tiktok is a weapon, the costs are covered...

11:37 techrights[sec]; It's not about communication or entertainment, those are just bait on the hook

11:37 techrights[sec]; The purpose was covered quite clearly by 60 Minutes last year.

11:38 schestowitz-pi; ok, so let's assume not only the "chinese one" is digital opium war

11:41 techrights[sec]; Twitter is vagule similar in that a main purpose is maniuplation of mass opinion

11:41 techrights[sec]; I was just thinking about that. There has been limited support for Gemini

11:41 techrights[sec]; clients among the various distros.

11:44 schestowitz-pi; what's left of "tech" 'media' barely covers it either

11:44 schestowitz-pi; self-fulfilling prophecy

11:44 schestowitz-pi; nytimes seems to have been hijacked by angry men who reject biological sciences

11:44 schestowitz-pi; ny times did other bad things, which i noted in irc

11:44 schestowitz-pi; nader lost interest in that paper and wrote about it last month

11:44 schestowitz-pi; we need to think of to curate what's left

11:44 schestowitz-pi; i must be honst

11:44 schestowitz-pi; i am slowed this the past 2 days because I am adapting to a new workflow

11:44 schestowitz-pi; which includes firefox

11:44 schestowitz-pi; it'll be ironed out over time

11:44 schestowitz-pi; i've also just moved one task out of the rasp400 because for some reason one pi connection over ssh to the other

11:44 schestowitz-pi; pi can lead to network timeouts more than once a day

11:44 schestowitz-pi; and i got tired of logging back in again

11:45 techrights[sec]; The "tech media" covers basically nothing any more.

11:45 techrights[sec]; Again, the emphasis needs to be on quality and relevance.

11:45 techrights[sec]; It's so hard to find items which are both good and relevant that there is no

11:45 techrights[sec]; reason to risk adding more chaff.

11:48 schestowitz-pi; i agree we need not add more feeds

11:48 schestowitz-pi; i cannot keep up with what we have already and need to keep time free to write/record and house chores

11:48 schestowitz-pi; regarding the ssh trick, it would not be applicable for this task as it needs to keep a file open in nano

11:48 schestowitz-pi; so unless gnu screen runs, it's a workaround at best

11:48 schestowitz-pi; i put that session back where it was before: "bubi"

11:48 schestowitz-pi; i have a lot less mental clutter since leaving that awful job, that had gotten worse in 2022

11:49 schestowitz-pi; draft

11:54 techrights[sec]; Casting a wider net is fine, only if it brings is more relevant articles from

11:54 techrights[sec]; outside.

11:54 techrights[sec]; checkinfg

11:54 techrights[sec]; s/botched/botched attempt at a/

11:57 schestowitz-pi; since my last opml backup I've not added many additional rss feeds, and those that I added were

11:57 schestowitz-pi; not important (hence I did not bother copy the opml dump to another drive)

11:57 schestowitz-pi; the weirdest thing is that in a planet with 8 billion people if someone asks me, what's a good site

11:57 schestowitz-pi; for news, I have to pause and cannot answer

11:57 schestowitz-pi; and if there's something happening in the uk news-wise I STILL do not know which site I can bear

11:57 schestowitz-pi; opening!

11:57 schestowitz-pi; i don't think it's me who's at fault but the press or society

11:57 techrights[sec]; maybe vendetta is a more appropriate term than "witch hunt" there

11:57 techrights[sec]; Only a few main Indian sites have feeds. When they cover tech , they

11:57 techrights[sec]; cover apsects missed in the EU and US

11:59 schestowitz-pi; i reckon even librarian or columnists are abused this year

11:59 schestowitz-pi; some unionised and went on strike

11:59 schestowitz-pi; that tells me enough

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noon, February 17

12:13 techrights[sec]; few libraries are stocked with libarr

12:13 techrights[sec]; libarians any more, the management cuts costs (and thus service) by

12:13 techrights[sec]; using assistants so a fair bit of domain expertise ends up missing from

12:13 techrights[sec]; the working and service environments

12:13 techrights[sec]; The ongoing anti-union activities continue there as in other disciplines and

12:13 techrights[sec]; fields of work.

12:13 techrights[sec]; Many libraries have been closed as the management 1) stops collection management

12:13 techrights[sec]; and/or 2) stops staffing the faclilities. Without staff, the UN definition

12:13 techrights[sec]; of library is not fulfilled. Without collection management, the UN definition

12:13 techrights[sec]; of library is not fulfilled. The result is when either or both are missing

12:13 techrights[sec]; is something other than a library even if politicians encourage confusion

12:13 techrights[sec]; with one.

12:15 schestowitz-pi; many us libraries are called after a politician who was a frequqentflyer of lolita express

12:15 schestowitz-pi; because he was the world's expert on every topic!

12:27 techrights[sec]; That too. But in some states, over 90% of the buildings which were once

12:27 techrights[sec]; libraries are unstaffed and thus no longer libraries. Then there is the

12:27 techrights[sec]; question of whether the collections are maintained in any way. Those

12:27 techrights[sec]; have been heavily politicized and even more heavily attacked by "both" sides

12:27 techrights[sec]; of the aisle.

12:27 techrights[sec]; The worse damage done by that frequent flyer is what he has done to colleges

12:27 techrights[sec]; and universities' abilities to teach computing let alone computer science.

12:27 techrights[sec]; They sell out for chump change / peanuts by eliminating their very ability

12:27 techrights[sec]; to do science.

12:28 techrights[sec]; -either learning or teaching or research or any combination of the three

12:28 techrights[sec]; Common MBA quote: "if you're so smart, why aren't you rich?"

12:28 techrights[sec]; Said to basically everyone by them.

12:28 techrights[sec]; https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/03/01/144958/if-youre-so-smart-why-arent-you-rich-turns-out-its-just-chanc

12:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/03/01/144958/if-youre-so-smart-why-arent-you-rich-turns-out-its-just-chanc )

12:28 techrights[sec]; e/

12:28 techrights[sec]; https://www.digitalinformationworld.com/2023/02/research-says-top-1-of-rich-are.html

12:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.digitalinformationworld.com | Research says the top 1% of the rich are actually not that smart / Digital Information World

12:44 techrights[sec]; They figure since he stole some printouts from the trash and his mom set him

12:44 techrights[sec]; up with a meeting at IBM he must therefore know a lot about computers.

12:44 techrights[sec]; Not true.

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1 PM, February 17

13:18 schestowitz-pi; At some point the images change from being something relevant and informative

13:18 schestowitz-pi; to being just arbitrary, unknown people in an arbitrary photograph.

13:18 techrights[sec]; At some point the images change from being something relevant and informative

13:18 techrights[sec]; to being just arbitrary, unknown people in an arbitrary photograph.

13:19 schestowitz-pi; in cemetaries the people who have loved ones become just piles of bones with a rock on top, so to

13:19 schestowitz-pi; "save space" they're passed to mass graves

13:19 schestowitz-pi; nobody likes to think about such eventualities

13:19 schestowitz-pi; in egypt they made pyramids to secure more time in their resting place

13:19 schestowitz-pi; but some museums plundered those too

13:20 techrights[sec]; Some countries have rental fees and if they are not renewed every few generations the graves disinterred and the

13:20 techrights[sec]; , the stone removed and recycled, and the plot used

13:20 techrights[sec]; for a fresher corpse.

13:23 schestowitz-pi; rianne was just watching some youtube video of a funeral

13:23 schestowitz-pi; someone filming and uploading to youtube

13:23 schestowitz-pi; not so respectful

13:23 schestowitz-pi; hours ago I was thinking of the filimg ban in the allegiance ceremony

13:23 schestowitz-pi; makes perfect sense to me

13:23 schestowitz-pi; or else it starts changing the behavious of people in that ceremony

13:23 schestowitz-pi; and it would not be pretty

13:23 schestowitz-pi; *filming ban

13:23 schestowitz-pi; some people in youtube still run a video of themselves in selfie mode

13:23 schestowitz-pi; they don't care about the rules

13:23 schestowitz-pi; they want "likes" or something

13:24 techrights[sec]; Definitely

13:24 techrights[sec]; That's coming up the Wednesday after next!

13:24 techrights[sec]; Speaking of videos, are the FOSDEM 2023 talks available anywhere? I'm not finding a playlist in the infamous Yu

13:24 techrights[sec]; ouTube though there seem to be some scattered

13:24 techrights[sec]; accounts with relevant videos.

13:25 techrights[sec]; https://www.youtube.com/@fosdemtalks/playlists

13:25 techrights[sec]; vs https://youtu.be/K1R7oK2piUM

13:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-FOSDEM - YouTube

13:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=K1R7oK2piUM

13:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidious.namazso.eu | Our Mad Journey of Building a Vector Database in Go - Weaviate at FOSDEM 2023 - Invidious

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2 PM, February 17

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14:49 schestowitz-pi; with me, in this state of flux, it's a bit like this:

14:49 schestowitz-pi; start at the top of full html file, scroll downwards, add what's relevant, find cutoff dates by checking

14:49 schestowitz-pi; for dupes

14:49 schestowitz-pi; a lot of feeds i can quickly skip/skmp

14:49 schestowitz-pi; because they're mostly ****

14:49 schestowitz-pi; but source diversity can help

14:49 schestowitz-pi; recently, with firefox, I find stories i like

14:49 schestowitz-pi; then search by title/url in the html file

14:49 schestowitz-pi; so i don't have to open a so-called 'web page' (JS bomb)

14:49 schestowitz-pi; at some stage the workflow can be programmed a bit

14:49 schestowitz-pi; to avoid switching between applications

14:49 schestowitz-pi; sna maybe to retrieve both the outlines and the "bodies" in one pass

14:49 schestowitz-pi; right now I spent a lot of time arguing about nord stream

14:49 schestowitz-pi; i think irc is still important, if on topic in suitable channels

14:49 schestowitz-pi; many sites envy irc

14:49 schestowitz-pi; because they never get the same "interaction" via "tweets" or blog comments

14:49 schestowitz-pi; long term, we'll have some "bigstories"(r), right now I'm adapting because

14:49 schestowitz-pi; the news sites are dying and we need another approach

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3 PM, February 17

15:53 techrightssec; There are a lot of shortcomings with the script but I am still amazed at

15:53 techrightssec; how much more efficient it is to use than QuiteRSS was.

15:56 schestowitz-pi; btw, if you look at the past week's Daily links, you will see URLs also inside blockquotes sometimes

15:56 schestowitz-pi; the script that parses these at the end wipes off the whitespace near <strong> ot <a> and I've

15:56 schestowitz-pi; not investigated why

15:56 schestowitz-pi; the fix might be like a few characters in perl

15:56 schestowitz-pi; in tuxmachines there's no such issue

15:56 schestowitz-pi; so the stuff there has some in-line links too, which i think improves matters

15:56 schestowitz-pi; sometimes a bit of formatting as well

15:56 schestowitz-pi; in quiterss there was not even a "view source" option, iirc

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4 PM, February 17

16:07 techrights[sec]; Which entry would be an example of the missing whitespace?

16:07 techrights[sec]; That script has not changed in a long while so changes in the source HTML

16:07 techrights[sec]; coming in from the remote sites can break things.

16:07 techrights[sec]; A URL would be the easiest way to identify the offending entries.

16:07 schestowitz-pi; "Kushal Das: SamNet Vinterkonferensen 2023" in http://techrights.org/2023/02/16/youtube-crisis/

16:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Links 16/02/2023: YouTube Crisis and Tesla Mass Recalls | Techrights

16:30 techrights[sec]; More details needed.

16:30 schestowitz-pi; see "Simon Ser: Status update, February 2023" in http://techrights.org/2023/02/17/tokodon-23-02-0/ from one minute ago

16:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Links 17/02/2023: Tokodon 23.02.0 and Tails 5.10 | Techrights

16:32 schestowitz-pi; look around the URLs, as the white space gets removed when i finalise

16:32 schestowitz-pi; i reckon it's what tries to precede a link with site name

16:32 schestowitz-pi; and does not restrict itself to <h5>element</h5>

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11 PM, February 17

23:07 techrights[sec]; I'm not sure where that one is coming from since it is not in the manual links

23:07 techrights[sec]; or the automated links or the supplementary links. How is it being acquired

23:07 techrights[sec]; and edited. I suspect that the spaces are lost early on.

23:07 techrights[sec]; There are no spaces just linebreaks and they might be processed incorrectly and

23:07 techrights[sec]; actual spaces needed instead.

23:07 techrights[sec]; Which script is all that for, rss-since?

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IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, February 17, 2023